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	<title>Comments on: A GM&#8217;s Perspective: Sexism</title>
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		<title>By: stacy</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-4306</link>
		<dc:creator>stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find funny is that alot of times when females join a guild the males will pick on the female which then causes drama but the female is blamed for it then either leaves or is is asked to leave.  Males that ninja loot aren&#039;t noted for that drama nor do people claim it&#039;s a male thing and to exclude all males.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find funny is that alot of times when females join a guild the males will pick on the female which then causes drama but the female is blamed for it then either leaves or is is asked to leave.  Males that ninja loot aren&#8217;t noted for that drama nor do people claim it&#8217;s a male thing and to exclude all males.</p>
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		<title>By: Falkor</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Falkor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a guild leader there have been times we&#039;ve talked about this topic. Of coarse we&#039;ve also talked about not allowing people under the age of 18 join the guild. Now this second topic stuck and is part of our recruitment policy. My Wife is an officer by my side as well and she and I joke about the drama that seems to follow Women. Although I do tend to feel that drama follows drama, in other words if you are prone to the pitfalls of drama causing challenges regarding loot, raid slotting, or any other drama causing element then you are more than likely susceptible to woman drama. This is true no matter your gender (or age for that matter, although we still stand behind our age limit, even excluding our own child which raids with us but isn&#039;t guilded by us). 

I think it&#039;s a valuable point to keep in mind that WoW brings with it opportunity. This opportunity for could be leaders to step up and take their hand at leading. Now sure, they&#039;ll make mistakes, take any good leader and they&#039;ll be able to share with you some whopper mistakes. Our guild runs a bit differently than other guilds I&#039;ve seen, we encourage people to step up and create what they want for themselves in the game. A simple example, I personally don&#039;t really RP much but we brought on a couple people early on that did. I suggested that if they wanted to RP that they would be welcome to create whatever they needed to in order to facilitate such activities. Currently we have a very successful RP section on our forums that a good many of our members post to on a daily basis. 

In another example of how we&#039;re set apart from other guilds is that we&#039;ve worked very hard at bringing down the walls that tend to go up between guilds. I&#039;ve played this game from day one and have been part of 4 guilds including the one I&#039;m currently leading. It always pained me to leave, leave good friends in one guild to go join other friends in other guilds just to get (raiding in my case) things done I wanted. When we went about building our guild we decided to look at it as a group of friends first. Next, we have in our guild some people that are interested in leading, leading raids, heck even some that have been interested in leading a guild and have gone off on a good note to do that. This encouragement to help enable people to do what they want in the game and extend resources to help facilitate those desires has really started to blossom into a strong community.

Well, I didn&#039;t mean to go off topic so much. I just wanted to point out that there are many things one can do with a guild and their leadership of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a guild leader there have been times we&#8217;ve talked about this topic. Of coarse we&#8217;ve also talked about not allowing people under the age of 18 join the guild. Now this second topic stuck and is part of our recruitment policy. My Wife is an officer by my side as well and she and I joke about the drama that seems to follow Women. Although I do tend to feel that drama follows drama, in other words if you are prone to the pitfalls of drama causing challenges regarding loot, raid slotting, or any other drama causing element then you are more than likely susceptible to woman drama. This is true no matter your gender (or age for that matter, although we still stand behind our age limit, even excluding our own child which raids with us but isn&#8217;t guilded by us). </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a valuable point to keep in mind that WoW brings with it opportunity. This opportunity for could be leaders to step up and take their hand at leading. Now sure, they&#8217;ll make mistakes, take any good leader and they&#8217;ll be able to share with you some whopper mistakes. Our guild runs a bit differently than other guilds I&#8217;ve seen, we encourage people to step up and create what they want for themselves in the game. A simple example, I personally don&#8217;t really RP much but we brought on a couple people early on that did. I suggested that if they wanted to RP that they would be welcome to create whatever they needed to in order to facilitate such activities. Currently we have a very successful RP section on our forums that a good many of our members post to on a daily basis. </p>
<p>In another example of how we&#8217;re set apart from other guilds is that we&#8217;ve worked very hard at bringing down the walls that tend to go up between guilds. I&#8217;ve played this game from day one and have been part of 4 guilds including the one I&#8217;m currently leading. It always pained me to leave, leave good friends in one guild to go join other friends in other guilds just to get (raiding in my case) things done I wanted. When we went about building our guild we decided to look at it as a group of friends first. Next, we have in our guild some people that are interested in leading, leading raids, heck even some that have been interested in leading a guild and have gone off on a good note to do that. This encouragement to help enable people to do what they want in the game and extend resources to help facilitate those desires has really started to blossom into a strong community.</p>
<p>Well, I didn&#8217;t mean to go off topic so much. I just wanted to point out that there are many things one can do with a guild and their leadership of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Lume</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Lume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wouldn’t this put a damper on your recent decision to rename the guild to G.R.O.S.S?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I thought we were renaming it to Runacy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wouldn’t this put a damper on your recent decision to rename the guild to G.R.O.S.S?</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought we were renaming it to Runacy!</p>
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		<title>By: Teckbot</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Teckbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BRB, rerolling female IRL.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Wouldn&#039;t this put a damper on your recent decision to rename the guild to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_and_Hobbes#G.R.O.S.S.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;G.R.O.S.S&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BRB, rerolling female IRL.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t this put a damper on your recent decision to rename the guild to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_and_Hobbes#G.R.O.S.S." rel="nofollow">G.R.O.S.S</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Liliya</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Liliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. I overreacted. I apologize, Matticus, and thanks for handling it so level-headedly, Lume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. I overreacted. I apologize, Matticus, and thanks for handling it so level-headedly, Lume.</p>
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		<title>By: Lume</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Lume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh... I&#039;m pretty sure the fact that he gets to tell them what to do simply comes from his position in the guild. I guess I&#039;m a sexist because I founded and lead my guild and I just happen to be a man. Circumstance does not always equate to sexism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh&#8230; I&#8217;m pretty sure the fact that he gets to tell them what to do simply comes from his position in the guild. I guess I&#8217;m a sexist because I founded and lead my guild and I just happen to be a man. Circumstance does not always equate to sexism.</p>
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		<title>By: Liliya</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Liliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Two of the best Priests in the world I know are women. They can certainly out perform me. In my raids, I don’t care what your gender is. I give you a task and you can excel or you can fail miserably. My guild can be fairly business like and we’ve had some dramatical issues with women in the past, but those were dealt with swiftly.&quot;

This sounds sexist. You concede that these two female players outperform you but make sure we all know you still get to tell them what to do. At the same time, you claim that while women ARE more prone to drama, you clever menfolk know how to handle them. Sexism comes in many forms other than preventing people of a certain gender from applying to one&#039;s guild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Two of the best Priests in the world I know are women. They can certainly out perform me. In my raids, I don’t care what your gender is. I give you a task and you can excel or you can fail miserably. My guild can be fairly business like and we’ve had some dramatical issues with women in the past, but those were dealt with swiftly.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sounds sexist. You concede that these two female players outperform you but make sure we all know you still get to tell them what to do. At the same time, you claim that while women ARE more prone to drama, you clever menfolk know how to handle them. Sexism comes in many forms other than preventing people of a certain gender from applying to one&#8217;s guild.</p>
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		<title>By: Lume</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Lume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly misread your post initially, then. Sorry. =)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Though it’s widely known that ovaries provide a set bonus of +20 healing&lt;/blockquote&gt;

BRB, rerolling female IRL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly misread your post initially, then. Sorry. =)</p>
<blockquote><p>Though it’s widely known that ovaries provide a set bonus of +20 healing</p></blockquote>
<p>BRB, rerolling female IRL.</p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two of the best Priests in the world I know are women. They can certainly out perform me. In my raids, I don&#039;t care what your gender is. I give you a task and you can excel or you can fail miserably. My guild can be fairly business like and we&#039;ve had some dramatical issues with women in the past, but those were dealt with swiftly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of the best Priests in the world I know are women. They can certainly out perform me. In my raids, I don&#8217;t care what your gender is. I give you a task and you can excel or you can fail miserably. My guild can be fairly business like and we&#8217;ve had some dramatical issues with women in the past, but those were dealt with swiftly.</p>
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		<title>By: Auzara</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/06/08/a-gms-perspective-sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Auzara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh you linked me I didn&#039;t even see!

My criticisms weren&#039;t of your guild or this situation but of &quot;Male Only&quot; clubs and mentality to which you referred. I will say I&#039;m blessed in that I&#039;ve never had these issues in my guild. It&#039;s very hard for a male member to come to me and tell me that females are not capable of raiding or are the cause of drama. Pretty much if you feel that way, you&#039;re not going to place yourself under my leadership. 

Humor definitely has it&#039;s place to help dissolve the tensions that build up in any raiding environment single sex or multiple sexes. In my guild my healing officer jokes that I shouldn&#039;t be allowed out of the kitchen or haven&#039;t been given permission to speak when I request that he perform tasks. There&#039;s also a running joke that our male officers have slept their way up the ranks. Our ventrillo has a channel called &quot;The Cyberdome&quot; where many one on one feedback sessions are held.  Finally we joke that 4 days out of the month we have to cancel raids so I can have my period without having a /gdisband.

I think the line is, when push comes to shove, our women are treated with the same respect and dignity that our men are treated with. All joking aside, our male and female leadership team has earned the respect of our members and each other and our raiders are evaluated based on their performance rather than the genitalia they possess.

I will say that I&#039;ve been playing online games for 10 years and when I first started gaming, I don&#039;t believe it would have been possible for me to recruit enough highly skilled players who would be willing to follow a female guild leader and be successful in end game raiding. The very first officer position I held was 9 years ago and I never told anyone in that guild that I was female. It was generally assumed that gamers were male or very openly female. Most of the latter the subject of a lot of attention and.or accused of being male in real life. Times have certainly changed since then, and I believe the average modern gamer is not of the opinion that gender affects your gaming skill or ability to function as part of a team. (Though it&#039;s widely known that ovaries provide a set bonus of +20 healing)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you linked me I didn&#8217;t even see!</p>
<p>My criticisms weren&#8217;t of your guild or this situation but of &#8220;Male Only&#8221; clubs and mentality to which you referred. I will say I&#8217;m blessed in that I&#8217;ve never had these issues in my guild. It&#8217;s very hard for a male member to come to me and tell me that females are not capable of raiding or are the cause of drama. Pretty much if you feel that way, you&#8217;re not going to place yourself under my leadership. </p>
<p>Humor definitely has it&#8217;s place to help dissolve the tensions that build up in any raiding environment single sex or multiple sexes. In my guild my healing officer jokes that I shouldn&#8217;t be allowed out of the kitchen or haven&#8217;t been given permission to speak when I request that he perform tasks. There&#8217;s also a running joke that our male officers have slept their way up the ranks. Our ventrillo has a channel called &#8220;The Cyberdome&#8221; where many one on one feedback sessions are held.  Finally we joke that 4 days out of the month we have to cancel raids so I can have my period without having a /gdisband.</p>
<p>I think the line is, when push comes to shove, our women are treated with the same respect and dignity that our men are treated with. All joking aside, our male and female leadership team has earned the respect of our members and each other and our raiders are evaluated based on their performance rather than the genitalia they possess.</p>
<p>I will say that I&#8217;ve been playing online games for 10 years and when I first started gaming, I don&#8217;t believe it would have been possible for me to recruit enough highly skilled players who would be willing to follow a female guild leader and be successful in end game raiding. The very first officer position I held was 9 years ago and I never told anyone in that guild that I was female. It was generally assumed that gamers were male or very openly female. Most of the latter the subject of a lot of attention and.or accused of being male in real life. Times have certainly changed since then, and I believe the average modern gamer is not of the opinion that gender affects your gaming skill or ability to function as part of a team. (Though it&#8217;s widely known that ovaries provide a set bonus of +20 healing)</p>
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