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	<title>Comments on: Raiding on Proudmoore; The 25- to 10-Man Transition</title>
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		<title>By: Lume</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/09/27/raiding-on-proudmoore-25-man-guilds-transitioning-to-10-man-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Lume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say 25-mans killed the tight-knit feel of most raids. Rather, some guildleaders were used to simply recruiting and putting raids together, relying on class leaders to do their thing. They simply didn&#039;t have the necessary skills to become more involved on a personal level with more of their members. And that is essentially what leaders had to do in TBC if they wanted to maintain a decent atmosphere. For those that couldn&#039;t do that, they should have promoted one or two people that could. Otherwise, the guild begins to feel impersonal. But that&#039;s not really the fault of the game design, in my opinion.

But 10-mans make that much easier to do, of course. So some people are naturally going to be drawn to the ease. And some simply don&#039;t want to raid with 15 more people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say 25-mans killed the tight-knit feel of most raids. Rather, some guildleaders were used to simply recruiting and putting raids together, relying on class leaders to do their thing. They simply didn&#8217;t have the necessary skills to become more involved on a personal level with more of their members. And that is essentially what leaders had to do in TBC if they wanted to maintain a decent atmosphere. For those that couldn&#8217;t do that, they should have promoted one or two people that could. Otherwise, the guild begins to feel impersonal. But that&#8217;s not really the fault of the game design, in my opinion.</p>
<p>But 10-mans make that much easier to do, of course. So some people are naturally going to be drawn to the ease. And some simply don&#8217;t want to raid with 15 more people.</p>
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		<title>By: candy</title>
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		<dc:creator>candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are going to see a lot more where this came from -- on many servers.

I have raided for the past 3 years. 40mans pre-BC, 25mans in BC. During the 40-man days, strong class leaders really kept the feel of raids small for me -- we sat in our own vent channel, had our own assignments, socialized with each other. When 25mans came around and guilds splintered apart, I landed in a guild that eventually did away with class leaders, leaving 25 players to pretty much fend for themselves. So when the 10 man progression chain was announced for WotLK, I stopped raiding 25mans (my guild was 4 bosses in to BT), and joined a friendly little guild with just enough players for 10mans. Yes, I sit around and run Kara on my 4th 70 instead of working on the last push for seeing BC raid content, but I don&#039;t care. I am excited that in a few short weeks I&#039;ll get to put myself on the path back to raiding-- but in a much more fun and personal atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are going to see a lot more where this came from &#8212; on many servers.</p>
<p>I have raided for the past 3 years. 40mans pre-BC, 25mans in BC. During the 40-man days, strong class leaders really kept the feel of raids small for me &#8212; we sat in our own vent channel, had our own assignments, socialized with each other. When 25mans came around and guilds splintered apart, I landed in a guild that eventually did away with class leaders, leaving 25 players to pretty much fend for themselves. So when the 10 man progression chain was announced for WotLK, I stopped raiding 25mans (my guild was 4 bosses in to BT), and joined a friendly little guild with just enough players for 10mans. Yes, I sit around and run Kara on my 4th 70 instead of working on the last push for seeing BC raid content, but I don&#8217;t care. I am excited that in a few short weeks I&#8217;ll get to put myself on the path back to raiding&#8211; but in a much more fun and personal atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: wowblogger</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/09/27/raiding-on-proudmoore-25-man-guilds-transitioning-to-10-man-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>wowblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer raiding regular 10 mans. It is much more personal and you really bond a lot more with your team. Obviously 25 mans are more epic to look at and be involved in but there are many more things that can go wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer raiding regular 10 mans. It is much more personal and you really bond a lot more with your team. Obviously 25 mans are more epic to look at and be involved in but there are many more things that can go wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Lume</title>
		<link>http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/09/27/raiding-on-proudmoore-25-man-guilds-transitioning-to-10-man-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-463</link>
		<dc:creator>Lume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As cool as it would be to play on the same server as you guys, the roots extend too deep, I am afraid. ;-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As cool as it would be to play on the same server as you guys, the roots extend too deep, I am afraid. ;-P</p>
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		<title>By: Eniwei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eniwei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have your entire guild transfer to Lightbringer IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have your entire guild transfer to Lightbringer IMO.</p>
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